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I'm sure you left the word "illegal" out of the phrase "for the sale of handguns and assault weapons", because it's implausible for anyone to be so illogical as to believe that gun control laws will deter someone willing to commit murder over a few thousand dollars from obtaining a weapon because of the illegality of possessing said weapon. Because, you know, that mentality has also worked wonders for the possession and consumption of drugs. Oh, wait...
Anyways...the posters are cool, but the message is lame.
Former Soldier: It's not meant to be aimed at soldiers. You're being too literal. I still empathise with you're sentiments however.
Robert: You're an idiot. 9/11 and Iraq aren't related.
it is because of the soldiers that are fighting for you that you can post these posters.
If you want to target "what goes around, comes around" (if you must) look at where the issue originates, and here's a hint, it's not with the soldiers putting their lives on the line.
It IS about the foreign policy!
Have your opinions about the war but show respect to the soldiers who protect your right to hold those opinions. I was lucky enough to have returned safely but I have lost many friends over there. Their is no bigger slap in the face for us (soldiers) than to be targeted by people who put the blame on us for doing our job. People who refuse to step up to the plate and defend the very rights they are abusing.
If the issue is the U.S. being in Iraq and wanting to bring the soldiers home it seems a little counter productive to have an ad campaign suggesting harm to those soldiers you want home.
In a campaign you should have something that can be understood by the masses, this is not.
These pictures show harm to your own people, it is vile and disgusting and overall embarrassing.
Declan: How can you say it is not targeted at the soldiers when it shows missiles,grenades,tanks, and the barrel of a gun pointed at soldiers. I am taking the imagery on a literal standpoint. I realize the target is foreign policy, these images do not convey that. That is all I and others are saying.
The campaign is terrible in the presentation of its message.
It actually doesn't show harm to them It used a simple technique to illustrate the point, what goes around comes around. It's a perfect example of good graphic design.
Rebecca: Most of what I just said applies to what you just said. What you're forgetting is that the Iraq war was not protecting America.
clearly you see a problem with what the images convey.
I can see the negative connotation these posters can have regarding soldiers. If they wanted the raise a foreign policy discussion then why not feature a picture of the US Capital?
Dwindle: exactly.
The posters are saying that our militaries use of force will turn around to bite us in the ass if we continue to use it as we are.
Sadly, I think this intended meaning isn't instantly accessible to everyone who might see it, so the poster probably isn't going to have the same emotional and reasonable appeal that it might have if it could somehow be more clear what it was saying.
It is unfortunate that so many won't understand it, but this kind of work should be used to affect as many as possible, and in that sense it probably won't work.
Just my thoughts.
Pretending that everything soldiers do is heroic, that there are no real consequences to pay for choosing war, and that it's unpatriotic to suggest that the US is part of the violence is exactly the sort of bad-faith that got them into Iraq in the first place.
This may not apply to you directly, but many people also have strong opinions against gay rights, and as a gay man i feel obligated to say "Since I am gay, I would appreciate it if you would try being gay before bashing me."
That logic makes no sense...
And plenty of other nations would and do allow such imagery in their countries. So whoever says that the U.S. is the only country with such freedoms...that's just plain stupid. And I agree with BillDave...soldiers from any military are there specifically to put themselves in harms way to prevent the harm of other countrymen.
You haven't figured it out yet have you? That was a self-inflicted wound with a peagun to get an excuse to tour the world telling others how to live and were to ship their oil.
I love the posters! The concept is totally original and the message is true (IMHO)
People who say that the soldiers in Iraq (they weren't just americans) are protecting people back home... how?
We've had plenty of soldiers from the UK die out there, none of us are entirely sure why we went in the first place. Blair followed Bush blindly, as far as most of us are concerned.
They're good, really clever idea. I especially like the friendly fire connotations, theres been a lot of that.
I could not have said it better myself. Glad to see that there are still some normal people out there. Citizens of the US are US Americans not americans, there are other americans as well, you seem to forget the country north of your own and the countries belonging to the south american continent. Enough said a bout that. A question: don't you think that you are being brainwashed from the first day in school? being forced to swear allegiance to the flag etc...how absurd isn't that? think you are among the few countries in the world still doing that, what about the democratic choice there? do you have to do that or do you have a choice? If you really want to do good, remove the dictator in North Korea. And how weird are your election system already, that isn't true majority democracy is it? I have so many issues but only alimited amount of time and space...You do not have democracy in your country, that is what you are thought to believe.
It's not about soldiers. They're not saying "Oooooh, soldiers are eevil! Kill them all! They deserve to die."
War is bad kk?
I find it ironic how many of you are so obsessed with the notion that soldiers are "Just doing their job". Thats naive at best, and criminal at worst.
Murdering people by the millions is NOT a job OR a legitimate way to advance your situation in life, regardless of whether you're ordered to do so or not. Hitler's Nazi's were ordered to kill Jews, does that make it ok? Are we to dismiss their actions because it was "their job" ?! Think a little bit. Responsibility NEEDS to be placed on soldiers AS WELL as those who give the orders.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a patriot, and I love my country as well as have many friends in the army. But lets not blind ourselves, lets use a little critical thinking here.
The fact of the matter is that Iraq was NOT a defensive war, it was NOT a protection of the American people, that much is clear. It has accomplished nothing besides a severe deficit, an economic recession, and given time to terrorists in Afghanistan to recover and grow in strength.
Country, please, its time to wake up and look at things the way they are, not the way we wished they were. Lets stop making excuses for each other, for the love of the world.
I have no beef with soldiers, quite the contrary. They epitomize self-sacrifice and the willingness to lay down their lives for their family and friends back home.
But they enlisted, theres a reason the army is voluntary. If they're willing to lay down their lives and fight to kill, they should also have no illusions about who the responsibility lies with.
In fact, I suspect that most veterans realize this all too well (hence the emotional trauma), and that its the people back home who see nothing of the bloodshed who legitimize their actions.
That said, long live America. I only hope that one day we will be as true to your ideals as we claim.
It's true that most of the Americans are ignorant when it comes to foreign policies, and it actually shows when they start BSing about muslims in particular and the middle east in general. what do you people know about us other than what your leaders want you to know? which is mostly untrue and is totally absurd!!! i read something about stoning women, man that's really absurd!!! i feel pity for all of you out there who think that The USA is the best country in the world, well at least, to me, Lebanon is the best country in the world.
let us face and be real for one time, what justifies your war on Iraq? the so called al qaeda criminals? did you ever ask yourself who created this group? did you ever consider going to Palestine to see whether Israelis' claims are true and unbiased? did you ever think of how life has become in iraq after your troops invaded it? you'll never understand such things, because you're living in your own big fat bubble with nothing but prejudice and poisoning commercials.
one final question, does your army recruit soldier for free? giving them no incentives, no payroll, not even offering them a single penny in return? NO! your army recruit you with commercials and ads, Blood money to be more precise. Wake up and yes, what goes around comes around if not now then sometime soon.
Once I thought I'd never be able to find a clever and smart american in the world, now I've found some so I hope I will find more someday.
Obviously not. The point is that I enjoy the website. The simile was only a literary device used to help convey that message.
Everyone is so uptight these days. Take a deep breath, stop looking at everything with tunnel vision and try to find the meaning behind things -- You'll come to find that most people actually have good intentions.
If you try hard enough, you might even find enough humility to swallow your swollen pride and admit you're getting all worked up over absolutely nothing.
And OBVIOUSLY this ad is not promoting harm to our soldiers, it's a message about our foreign policy, take a hint people.
You really shouldn't depict US soldiers getting killed or in harms way. I hear your arguments, but you must understand how families feel!
US soldiers aren't planting roadside bombs. They aren't supporting a government that's mass graves are still being uncovered. They aren't publicly defying the morals their religion guards.
Take it from me. I've got a lot of dead friends who would tell you too had they not died so that you could write your post.
I quote Bob Dylan:
"Don't criticise what you can't understand."
You know the uniform but you don't know the faces. You know the name but you don't know the war. You know how to talk but you don't know how to listen.
You don't even know how to really see.
it is because of the soldiers that are fighting for you that you can post these posters."
Otherwise translated as:
"These soldiers are out there fighting for your right to say these things, which means you aren't allowed to say them."
I have to say, though, that from a design point of view, the posters are clever and effective - especially the first two.
When you talked about brainwashing, concerning forced pledges all throughout school, you are correct. I am a high school student in Texas (of all the places!) and while they do not force you to pledge, many teachers will talk down to you, degrade, and insult you if you refuse, and will send you to speak with an assistant principal, not even thinking for one second that the pledge glorifies the Christian God, so for many students the pledge could be considered swearing against his/her own God. On another note, i had an assignment concerning 9/11, and after voicing my opinions on the paper, my teacher confronted me after class, insulted me, and ultimately sent the paper to the principal. Now the principal obviously discarded her complaint, because i was never sent to talk to him about it. But the fact that the ones we as teens are supposed to look up to are the same people insulting us for a particular opinion is sad, even frightening.
end the Fed
I think it shows that you are ignorant. It doesn't matter what I think though because you will choose to depict people who support their troops as idiots.
My father served in the Navy for 20 years and my boyfriend has been in the Army for 4 years, 1 of which was served in Iraq.
I don't understand why a campaign is being made to bring soldiers home from Iraq, when the war in Afghanistan is on the upswing. We are not even deploying as many soldiers to Iraq as we are Afghanistan. Not knowing this, shows your ignorance of the war.
You can say that schools brainwashed me into standing up for my country and believing everything I hear. You believe that this war is just about oil, is that not brainwashing on your part? Where did you get your facts?
I have not said anything about my views of the war. I have clearly spoken on my views of soldiers. I love and respect them and would not dream of doing anything but respecting those men and women who choose to do something so many are too weak to do.
I know many of you won't even read this comment equating me with some back woods extremist anti-everything group. I am not that person, nor am I living in a perfect suburb.
So many people that don't live in the U.S. depict us as idiotic, unintelligent inbred people who follow blindly behind anyone in power. How ignorant are you to equate an entire nation with the few handfuls of Americans you have met?
I am open minded and accepting of many things, one thing I do not accept is showing harm to our own people. I realize what the graphic means, and yes it DOES NOT show our soldiers being blown to pieces.It does show the potential. It's saying we are going to get what is coming to us. Who protects the U.S.? Soldiers..so in the long run you are saying that our soldiers will be killed..but they have it coming to them.SO sucks to be the guy who chose to be a soldier because when he gets killed , you won't care. You will sit behind the computer being your "oh so educated self, sipping your overpriced coffee, bitching about how much America sucks"
If you are living in America and hate it so much, or hate the health care system: LEAVE. It is that simple, if other countries have it "right" move there.Call me ignorant,but I don't live somewhere unless I enjoy it or it offers me what I need. Jobs are at an all time low, so you have a perfect reason to leave!
I don't understand why people live off complaining so much about America. Maybe its like a 10 year old mentality of "I am going to pick on something, but its only because I really like it" or are jealous of our ability to do whatever we set our minds to.
I know this was long winded but all people who support the soldiers are not uneducated. I am tired of being equated with extremist groups because I support my father and boyfriend and many friends who are willing to stand up for their beliefs. Something many would not do, they can hide behind their computers and bash all they want, they are never in harms way.
Yeah ok, no frickin' bias there. In each case the soldier is the aggressor. We wouldn't have been there in the first place if a bunch of backwards assed extremists weren't "agressive" to us first. Why don't the posters show a suicide bomber or a muslim extremist beating his wife for showing skin. What comes around...
This is not a poster about foreign policy, it is a blatant slam to the war in the middle east and nothing more. There is also the element of threat of reprisal by saying what goes around comes around. In a sense it is like, "you will get yours".
Subtext or not, I believe these posters are very poorly done. There was an obvious attempt to be inflamatory.
These comments illustrate just how intelligent most Americans are, and yes, I'm an American. Not exactly something I'm proud of any more.
long live the coalition.
Jiddu Krishnamurti
US is number 1
Mexicans does your laundry.
South America supplies the coffee.
Europeans are Cowards.
Russians are communist.
North is were Santa close.
Arabs, afghans, Pakistanis, and Koreans are terrorist.
China are there to copy things.
japan does your electronics.
and those are the people in here thinking you have a right to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, because you are like a judge who listen to one party and then makes their judgment and that party is your local channels like FOX news.
GOD gave us a special thing called mind to diferentiate us from Animals and to think.
you guys should start using that special thing before judging other nations and other who should be in control of which country.
there is no enemy out there, until you go and look for it.
and one more thing, i don't think you have the right to interfere in others' beliefs, whether venom has a god or no it is his life, and if u still believe in a mighty lord then it is your problem. i might be wrong but i assume you are American, eventually you live in "the haven of democracy" -since there is the USA against other nations on earth.
i don't give a damn about your country, to be honest, but i still care about my country and I'm concerned about your interference in our upcoming elections. not that i don't respect you or america, its only that i disagree with your fellow yankees in their indeligate way of handling external affairs.
to each and every US president, get your dirty hands off our countries, u have enough trouble back at home.
no need to mention your economical crisis, at least its not my fault ;)
venezuala
phillipines
guatemala
cuba
haiti
somalia
etcetera
academic.evergreen.edu/g/grossmaz/interventions.html
If I worked for a company that did something terrible, like say, released a product that killed children, I would quit. Perhaps it's time soldiers did the same, instead of murdering thousands of people.
The ignorance of the general population of the USA astounds me. It is incredibly telling of how well the ruling class has lead the "people" to believe that outside the USA is evil, and scary and that there is no better place in the world.
How close minded can you possibly be.
The ads however, are brilliant, whether directed at the soldiers or not.
Anyone not from the U.S.: Your opinion is much like my opinion of your countries..it doesn't matter. You don't live the life of someone living here, how can you throw in your 2 cents on something you know nothing about?
Republicans and people who support the troops don't just watch Fox News. I never watch Fox News. I listen to both sides on my XM/Sirius radio when driving to work. Channels (America Right) (America Left) check it out.
I find it humorous how many non-Americans bash America, yet you move here to escape high taxes and health care that isn't competitive. I personally love my health care, I have a job and am a full time student yet I still manage to afford to keep myself healthy. It is really not that hard of a concept.I also don't like waiting forever to see my doctor.
American troops are not the only ones in this war, yet we are targeted above all others.
Your blessed European troops are there as well! Check your facts!
Again, If you hate America and are not from here I don't care. If you hate America and do live here,leave. What is holding you to a country you hate so much??
Not like we do not have enough problems at home. I can guarantee that within our lifetimes, the US will cease to be an economic power. And NOT because of this NATURAL economic recession. But because, believe it or not, of all the "fair" business laws we pass. We think we are making the world a better place by forcing businesses to be socially responsible? Wrong. Socially Responsible companies make less money, as opposed to all the factories in China and Taiwan and Japan. All of whom we import products from. So US companies are now making less money because we are forced to spend money on things others do not. To sum that crap up, in this world economy we are making less money because we are expected to be the "Fair Big Brother" of the f**king world. End Result? Higher inflation rates to cover the costs of implementing these pissant laws, and other countries stealing market shares from US companies. Which forces them to downsize, and cut your jobs. So why don't we all celebrate by taking the piss and raising minimum wage. Why don't we teach our kids this stuff?
Also What makes people think their religion is right? I would like to see some conclusive proof that the popular mythology some people call Christianity is better than Islam, or Judaism, Hinduism, or even Pagan? What is so wrong with letting people choose their own salvation? In fact, Judaism is the only one of the three biggies that says there are other ways of attaining salvation than their way. Islam says they must eradicate non-believers (There's that hyphen again! darndest thing. And Christianity says that with a slightly milder tone. Anybody up for an inquisition? Or two, or three.
There was no Jesus.
There IS no Jesus.
There will be no Jesus.
The ad campaign is poorly thought out, these young heroes fight for our freedom, yup even the freedom to create shit like this. Anyone who portrays violence against a U.S troop is a sick minded treasonist in my humble opinion.
you are a bunch of ignorant people and i feel sorry for you.
to those who keeping on bragging of how others would do anything to go to america, people are dying to get out of their countries because of the wars and/or the unstable governments you create for them with your interference, you try to ruin economies, eventually your borders get flocked by people who are disillusioned by your propaganda. what a shame.
And since you are quoting the bible all the time, maybe you need it spelled out for you.
"What Goes Around Comes Around" = "Do onto others....."
Why do you bother?
The message seems to be not that soldiers are pointing weapons at themselves; It's that they were sent there to point guns at others, who will inevitably point their own guns back at the unlawful and unjustified invaders.
It is about questioning the sense behind sending your fathers, sons, brothers and friends to their death for your privilege to drive around in cars that consume a gallon of fuel for each mile you drive.
It's about questioning the sense behind sending your countrymen to war for the profts of those that make the weapons for both sides and don't give a shit about liberty, life, justice, democracy, human rights and all the other wonderful ideas America was founded on.
It's about questioning the sense behind tormenting both your invading countrymen as well as the invaded Iraqui people with death and destruction and calling it a glorious victory for the forces of good, while actually forcing the aforesaid invaded to accept one fascist regime for another in disguise.
It's just a way of illustrating the irony and futility of trying to fight 'terrorism' by becoming a terrorist yourself (not person for person, but america as a collective people).
And if any American does not realise the folly of their collective actions and attitude towards the rest of the world, and who does not understand the meaning of the message in the poster, need only read a history book. The pattern you will come to see is that ALL great empires, no matter how powerful they appeared to be, that attempted to impose their beliefs and ideals on other nations through war and opression, have fallen and been condemned to the ashes of history by the very conflicts they so ignorantly sought.
Peace
Any American citizen who willingly goes into a war zone to participate in the military industrial complex killing machine is a traitor to the U.S. Constitution. Plain & Simple.
This country doesn't need standing armies anymore. The only enemies we have are the ones WE create through our arrogance and imperialism.
People are so misguided. America has no obligation to be anyone's friend. We choose to be. And people in Europe and elsewhere mistake that for weakness, and demand more and more concessions. Well, guess what? If we wanted to, we could become the Roman Empire or the Qin Empire and brutally colonize the rest of the world.
And before you say "but you're already brutally colonizing," how many countries are under our direct control? Have we invaded Latin America and forced them to send us money and people? No. The Middle East attacked us and it hated us. I don't think we could have found more deserving countries to attack than Iraq and Afghanistan, two anti-American nations that were also bastions of misery, oppression, and murder. At the very least, things are only as bad as they once were (but I'd argue that since Saddam's rape rooms are gone, they're a teeny bit better).
In short, everyone critical from Europe and elsewhere can continue their little masturbatory "internet activism" sessions. If it makes you feel better to make fun of and criticize the most powerful nation in the world because we let you, go ahead. Just remember that if we were totalitarian (like the USSR) or fanatically nationalist (like the Chinese), you would all be in a much worse position than you are now. Be grateful we don't crush you.
The total American force – including active-duty, reserve, and guard – is about 2.2 million. So yes, bring it on. You attacked Iraq and thought you would win within a week, and afters seven years of war you are still there, and you wont win that one either. So go right ahead, please invade euorope and you will be wiped out, one by one.
http://www.notmytribe.com/2008/howabout-an-unex...
A previous poster, Stephanie, said it just right
"If you want to target “what goes around, comes around” (if you must) look at where the issue originates, and here’s a hint, it’s not with the soldiers putting their lives on the line."
as for people like Dixon.. I just want you all to realize that these soldiers you speak down on are following orders. They joined the military to serve their country, and you should learn how to respect that.
or Steve who said something along the lines of "it's voluntary..I'd quit," well buddy, it's called a contract and having consequences for going AWOL (you can't just quit until your ToS is up).
For all of you Anti-American posters out there (Adder Venom / Xinita).. Adder, you say that people who are proud to be Americans show their own ignorance in that very phrase? How so? How do we exhibit our ignorance by saying we are proud to be Americans? Are you not proud of your country? or of being a citizen of your country?
If I say I am proud to be an American, it does not mean that I support every little action of my country, its leaders, or its policies. Please tell me where your reasoning comes from.
Also Adder, "following orders just like the Nazis" is usually referred to as the "Nuremberg Defense," and does not necessarily apply here. Any one knows that if any military institution can not have orders followed efficiently and with out question, things that needed to be done, would not get done. Simply put. We aren't asking our soldiers to gas flocks of people either, are we?
Xinita and all the rest of you posting about the oil in Iraq, I'll tell you right now I sure as hell haven't benefited from the oil everyone claims Bush went in there to 'steal.' Otherwise, I wouldn't have been paying 4 USD (or more in other places) for a gallon of gas. Honestly, I think you should be a little more focused on the Arctic frontier opening up more and more every year due to global warming. Obviously, Iraq's oil becomes nothing in the light of this discovery. Did I mention that it's not just the U.S. making claims here?
I ask you to not bother responding if your comments follow the same format as your previous posts.
EXACTLY!!!!! coz you are an ignorant.
your government is a Lobby, in fact it is the biggest lobby in the world. did you ever wonder how your economy broke down? NO! coz you're too busy counting the money you have left, forgetting about those who robbed your ass off! i invite you all to the middle east, and i mean it, i'm willing to take in anyone of you guys as soon as you step on the lebanese soil, and i'll show you around, i'll show you not what your troops did-we dont have any american soldier in lebanon- but the mess your governments interference has left behind.
your governmentS has turned the middle east into hell.
you are still crying until this day for those who died on 9/11, my people are still crying on the millions that have died since 1948 i.e. the year an arab country got dissected and stolen. we are the ones getting killed on daily basis, we are the ones getting raped, robbed, massacred, exiled, tortured etc...
you witness one horrible day, we've been witnessing 60 bloody years.
i still cant understand what makes your fallen better than ours? what makes YOU better than us? what makes a 25 years old american average guy better than me? I'll tell you what makes him better, he's an american. well fuck that I'm fed up with your stupid way of handling my anger, --this is simply how a so-called terrorist is created.good for you.
and by the way, to whomever is talking bullshit about us, we dont kill women and we don't rape women as much your free country does, you come on top of the list presented by the UNICEF every year.
and that silly thing who was talking about crushing us, i pity you, i really do. well i envy you after all, ignorance is a bliss.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
i'll i wanted to do is make it clear to everyone that you can't judge a whole culture for what its minority is doing, and trust it is a minority. as for the economy issue, it is not the CEOs we should be talking about, politicians YES governments YES, coz they did what they did knowing that the consequences are going to be for their favor. conspiracies are majorly coming from your governments' side, and it is sadly against most of the americans' wills. i do not agree with terrorist but i disagree as well with those who call me a terrorsit coz i'm a muslim arab, so what if i'm what i am? i dont pray just like the majority of the Arabs, if u get to read some of our news articles you'd come to realise that there are people out there in our arab world urging everyone to become leaders in what they do and not followers, from tech and sciences to literature,.
but still that doesnt make us forget that there's some unfairness in the way your government interferes in our internal issues.
i'm sorry if i offended you in some way i was just trying to explain my point of veiw and pardon my uncomprehending sentence building at certain points.
and we actually do have democracy.
Thanks for this. What an amazing, insightful design. Love it!
Stumbled! ;)
Keep 'em coming
These brave men and women are fighting for what they believe in. Like it or not, we are in this together. Get over it people.
But a growing number of people understand this perfectly.
This is a terrible thing to show and say about those who are giving you the very right to make these posters. There are other ways to promote peace, and hurting the honor of those defending you is certainly not one of them.
The fact that you are not jailed or shot for your views is testament to the truly great social experiment called The United States of America.
Evil cannot be fought with peace...
Yes, they signed up for the military. It IS a job to them (in most cases one to be proud of) but I highly doubt they signed up just so they could go overseas and slaughter innocents, although I have met a few heartless soldiers who are in it only for the "kill" as they were calling it.
I see these posters as more of a creative attempt to try and show people what's going on than someone trying to disgrace and individual soldier. After all, anyone in any branch of the US Military is representing America. If you are overseas and wear the uniform, you are no longer just one person over there. You are a part of so much more, wether it is viewed as good or bad.
So look at the soldiers in these posters as America, not just one individual.
Whew...hope that made sense....
I hope the Iraq war ends soon. What's the point anyway? Where are the friggin' Weapons of Mass Destruction?
the only inferences we can make are from the information to which we are exposed concerning this matter, and i can guarantee that NOT ONE person posting on this website, including myself, knows all of the details about anything the united states government has ever done.
its nice that youve cultivated opinions over time, but theres no way any of us can be right, or tell anyone else that they are wrong. who are you to assume that the information that has been propagandized to you is completely valid?
im sure the soldiers have some idea about that of which they speak, but even THEY dont know the whole story. i know i dont either, but you really are casting fallible and erroneous judgment until your knowledge is absolutely omniscient.
Book - A House of Many Mansions (Salibi)
Book - Lebanon - A History of Conflict and Consensus (Shehadi)
If you're in a hurry - or don't like to read:
http://history.howstuffworks.com/asian-history/...
and of course the internet bible:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lebanon
Happy reading!
end of story.
:)
On other hand, maybe it's a good idea to keep it like that and emphasize: yes, it's a plain poster, but when you wrap it like that - you get a pooh! - sudden turnaround of events
damn idiots!
for non-russian speaking:
What a great idea!!! Big plus to disigners!!!
the more i read through them though the more depressed i get for the intelligence level of some of my fellow Americans.
Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9-11 people.
thanks for posting and keep up the great creative work Big Ant!
Why weren't these posters designed with planes flying into the World Trade Center, or any of the hundreds, no - THOUSANDS - of Islamic terrorist attacks DELIBERATELY targetting innocents. Even if you just started 30 yrs ago with the Iran hostages, you'd have more material than you could ever possibly use.
But no - you choose to portray the men and women who put their lives on the line to DEFEND this nation as the culprits. The designers of this campaign are dispicable cowards & should be tried for treason.
If you have creative ideas, use them to thank your country, not to hurt the men and women who risk their lives everyday so that you can sit on your ass.
you obviously know nothing about the middle east other than what you're reading o those silly posts. i'll give you an example, in one of the websites you posted back there, they were talking about the 1996 war(it was more like a one sided war) so here is an exempt:
"In 1996, Israel began sustained attacks on southern Lebanon to stop Palestinian rocket fire, ultimately leading to the displacement of 400,000 Lebanese. Fighting across the border ended in 2000 with the withdrawal of Israeli troops from their buffer zone in southern Lebanon."
first off, israel didnt attack because of the so-called Palestinian rockets, they attacked because of political reasons which i think you should read more about somewhere else. second of all, fighting across the border? what the heck? and the buffer zone israel occupied is nothing but lebanese soil with people living behind the line and under the israeli and lahd's merci.so basically israel occupied this land that righteously belonged to lebanon and we are talking about the southern part of lebanon not just a mile or two.eventually resistance groups were created sometime during the eighties and reached the year 2000 with a disgraceful israeli retreat back to the palestinian border.during that time israeli troops were attacked on daily basis within the lebanese terretories from lebanese people.
as for the recent issues, i really dont want to waste my own time on educating YOU on how things really are in the middle east, i feel sorry for you wasting your time trying to look up some sites to post here so that your hit back would look more elegant.idiot.
You should be glad that in your country still exists free thinkers who can do this kind of things to make people think.
Stupid americans
I guess Winston Churchill said it best.
"If you are not a liberal at 20, you have no heart. If you are not Conservative by 40, you have no brain."
wow, i did not know that some Americans are even too dumb to understand the simple message in the Ads..
of course it is not the soldier's fault, and anyone who feels offended by the imagery clearly does not get the point: the criticism is aimed at the the people who put those soldiers right where they got shot
duh
The posters are great and really sum it all up.
Nice concept but I don't think the meaning is good..
Don't try to replay me, I stumbled upon this, so I will never go back to here..
Which really proves a key element of design -
any message that can be misinterpreted
absolutely will be.
As far as I know, in my own experience,
even the people who are fiercely against the war are certainly not blaming the troops.
Part of what makes this nation great is the right to dissent, to question, and to second guess authority.
It's open, honest discourse that leads to better policy, and inevitably, better security.
I think these posters were intended to generate discussion, not assign blame to the troops.
That would be stupid.
dear idiot,
try reading a book. it doesn't even have to be a long one, we can start easy. try dr. seuss, or even a book of fairy tales. like that one about a turtle and a rabbit sprinting.
am i being harsh? well sorry, but if you've ever read a book, or even just thought an independent thought, then you might recognize something called a metaphor. because that's what this poster is: from visual to headline, it's a metaphor. no soldiers were actually harmed in the making.
for you advanced students who have read a book or two, try using those fancy reading skills and applying them to the headline, since the visual is obviously far beyond your ken. "what goes around comes around." if we were supposed to understand this literally, what would we be talking about here? boomerangs? you decide.
in any case, try being less stupid in the future. if idiocy is absolutely unavoidable, please contact your nearest liberal, pot-smoking, America-hating hippie who will try his hardest to threaten you and your entire way of life.
"...for the sale of handguns and assault weapons. That’s where the problem is, as you can tell from the violence here and in Mexico."
Hitler thought the same thing, before he took firearms away from his people. I'm pretty sure we all know what happened to the Jewish people and political dissidents who couldn't defend themselves at that point...
...no. You are wrong. This is not opinion it is fact, backed up by statistics from around the world. A population of law-abiding gun owners will deter crime. Period.
Those who use guns for violent or unlawful purposes own those firearms illegally in most cases anyway... and will continue to have them regardless of the law. What you propose eliminates a persons right to defend themselves, which is a right that any person of any nationality or faith can embrace.
Food for Thought:
Here is a synapsis of just some of the millions of people who have lost their lives due to gun control laws -- http://www.saveourguns.com/LethalLaws.htm
Gratulation!
Specially the People who did this Excellent Excellent Excellent work only for Human awekness, You are Great.
Anyways…the posters are cool, but the message is lame."
O'rly? Maybe you should reconsider the "few countries". You could pull that of in nearly every european country and you would not even have to deal with whiny patriots.
In case you did not notice: there is more than one democracy in the world and some of them alreadly learned that active violence and aggresive invasions are not the only ways to protect themselves. ;)
After reading some of the stupid pro-war posts here i can only wonder if you americans passed the last 50-80 years in isolation.
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Actually, Rick, you can blame drug prohibition for that. Gang violence here or in Mexico has never been about gun control, but always about drug control. Legalize the drugs and it all goes away.
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The individual only cares for himself but when the utopia is lost the people go into a dark place for a long time. The evolution into a new and better society takes time, in the mean while their is anarchy.
Violence leads to violence. Its just the way it is.
I hope we can learn to talk to each other instead killing. Otherwise we are trapped in a cycle of murder going round and round just like the weapons that wrap around the poles....
and Good, Cool IDEA!!!
this is what I call creativity !
they deserve the Gold Pencil for Design.
keep up the good work guys.
THROWINGSTONES:
I could not have said it better myself. Glad to see that there are still some normal people out there. Citizens of the US are US Americans not americans, there are other americans as well, you seem to forget the country north of your own and the countries belonging to the south american continent. Enough said a bout that. A question: don’t you think that you are being brainwashed from the first day in school? being forced to swear allegiance to the flag etc…how absurd isn’t that? think you are among the few countries in the world still doing that, what about the democratic choice there? do you have to do that or do you have a choice? If you really want to do good, remove the dictator in North Korea. And how weird are your election system already, that isn’t true majority democracy is it? I have so many issues but only alimited amount of time and space…You do not have democracy in your country, that is what you are thought to believe.
My Comment To This:
Just so you know, America is a republic. Choices are made through elected representatives. That is why our pledge of allegiance says, "And to the republic, for which it stands," and not, "And to the democracy..."
"Americans" is the accepted term for people who live in the United States of America. People from Mexico are called Mexicans. People from Canada are called Canadians.
Also, it'd be useful to know that not everyone here is an American.
Our soldiers are Americans. They are sons and daughters, husbands and wives. They have children. Their loved ones could lose them at any moment.
How dare you put up a poster with a gun to their heads?
Whether or not you support the war, this is the worst way to protest it. What do you say to a soldier's mother who see's this poster as a gun to her son's head.
Terrible Idea, Terrible Article. Anyone who supports this needs to rethink their morals.
Take the posters damn and the article offline.
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